Tigger_ finally speaks regarding the June 24 channel meet debacle!

<@Tigger_> I believe this is what happened: 1. plan was in place, everyone intended to go. 2. SoleilMoonFrye made a post about a 'surprise' he had in store for Lamont_Cranston, 3. Lamont_Cranston was too scared on the day, 4. PrometheanStardust turned up at the right time and place, 5. Lamont_Cranston was already at the cinema by this time.

<@Tigger_> PrometheanStardust, everyone believes you, Lamont_Cranston has had a bad record of ruining channel projects, and I believe this is just another.
<@Tigger_> my advice is: do not get involved in any of Lamont_Cranston's proposals, as he has yet to learn anything about reciprocity.

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LamontCranston's picture

no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

I was there at 10:31am on the end of the platform where the last carriages stops, nobody got off it. Nobody getting off the other carriages headed to the end of the platform, they all went to the building in the middle of the platform and its exit. Nobody was anywhere near the end of the platform once the train had departed, I was standing there all alone figuring out what to do next.
END fuckedup. Either he wasn't paying attention to the directions (a possibility since even on the evening of the 24th he still didn't know what time we were to see the movie*), and because of that or because he got there late (despite my directive to get there 10 minutes early) he obviously got on the wrong carriage.
But even if he'd got on the 4th or 5th carriage of the train he still could have gotten to the 6th as it was an X'Trapolis. That he didn't would suggest he either didn't know to go to the 6th or wasn't on those carriages either-instead getting on the first three carriages?
But putting aside for a moment which carriage he was or wasn't on (even though it is what was agreed to), I was at the end of th platform and nobody, not one person, getting of the train headed in that direction. They all went to the exit in the middle of the platform. Nobody was there when the train departed for Belgrave.
When END got off from wherever he was he went somewhere else.

*And lets not forget one thing: the timestamp on his photos metadata. His photo of the Hoyts was taken at 12:17pm. He was surprised to learn we would be seeing the film at 11:30am. Why should we accept the word of this notorious liar that it is simply an hour fast? If we consider that he did fuckedup, perhaps he got on the wrong train.
The rage he has shown throughout this ordeal strikes me as someone who made a mistake, knows it, and can not admit it. Likely also playing it up for the purposes of trolling.

There you see the Ringwood Railway Station, the bottom left corner is the end of the platform and the 6th carriage of a train, in the top right the front of the platform and the 1st carriage of a train.
I was at the end, right where the shadow begins, waiting. Nobody getting off the train came to the end of the platform, they all went to the middle to leave.

Tigger_'s picture

My Report..

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I was there at 10:31am on the end of the platform where the last carriages stops, nobody got off it. Nobody getting off the other carriages headed to the end of the platform, they all went to the building in the middle of the platform and its exit. Nobody was anywhere near the end of the platform once the train had departed

If I was in that situation, I would have remained at the platform, assuming that he had missed the train, and would be on the next one. I would not have hastily judged them so, and tried to give them the best benefit of the doubt, even if only to confirm that they were not actually going to appear.

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I was standing there all alone figuring out what to do next.

And didn't waste any time figuring out what to do next, since within minutes you were half a kilometre away buying your cinema ticket. As it shows that you bought the ticket at 10.38AM.

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END fuckedup. Either he wasn't paying attention to the directions (a possibility since even on the evening of the 24th he still didn't know what time we were to see the movie*), and because of that or because he got there late (despite my directive to get there 10 minutes early) he obviously got on the wrong carriage.

I believe that what carriage PrometheanStardust was on makes no substantial difference to the outcome of the attempted meeting, since a railway platform is long and straight, so anyone at any position along the platform should be afforded a full view of every other person present on the platform.

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*And lets not forget one thing: the timestamp on his photos metadata. His photo of the Hoyts was taken at 12:17pm. He was surprised to learn we would be seeing the film at 11:30am.

PrometheanStardust was talking to me on irc at precisely 12.15 PM, I just looked at my logs to confirm this:

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[12:15] <+PrometheanStardust> YOu there?
[12:15] <+Tigger_> yes
[12:15] <+Tigger_> shouldn't you be at the movie?

So that the camera metadata says the photos were taken at 12:17pm suggests to me that the camera time was set during Victoria's Daylight Saving period, and had not been adjusted since. This is really the fault of the ungodly attempts to meddle with the natural order of things resulting in such blasphemies as daylight saving, fortunately Queensland is as yet free from such infernal scheming.

So to reiterate my summary, I believe this is the actual sequence of events:
1. The initial plan was agreed to with sincerity by all parties concerned.
2. Venkmann made a post mentioning a surprise for LamontCranston, which Lamont then interpreted as a threat.
3. LamontCranston though very worried still left home with the intention of meeting the others at the appointed time.
4. But during the journey Lamont became ever more anxious about the meeting as he dwelled upon what this 'surprise' might be.
5. So then he decided to proceed directly to the cinema, without waiting for anyone, and thus avoid this surprise.
6. PrometheanStardust arrived at the station at the correct time, and LamontCranston was not there.
7. PrometheanStardust looked throughout the area for Lamont, including at the Pancake Parlour, without success.
8. LamontCranston in order to save face has attempted to shift blame to PrometheanStardust.

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Clarification

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Venkman made a post mentioning a surprise for LamontCranston, which Lamont then interpreted as a threat.

I said a surprise for "one of the fellas". In reality the surprise was for b1rd, I was going to pay for this meal at the pancake parlour as a goodwill gesture because he is on DSP.

Venkman's picture

This needs an explanation

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I was standing there all alone figuring out what to do next.

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And didn't waste any time figuring out what to do next, since within minutes you were half a kilometre away buying your cinema ticket. As it shows that you bought the ticket at 10.38AM.

LamontCranston's picture

I was there

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If I was in that situation, I would have remained at the platform, assuming that he had missed the train, and would be on the next one. I would not have hastily judged them so, and tried to give them the best benefit of the doubt, even if only to confirm that they were not actually going to appear.

If I had adopted that philosophy then I would have continued to wait at Lilydale for b1rd who slept in (and in doing so I would have been presuming to abandon END at Ringwood)

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I believe that what carriage PrometheanStardust was on makes no substantial difference to the outcome of the attempted meeting, since a railway platform is long and straight, so anyone at any position along the platform should be afforded a full view of every other person present on the platform.

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4. But during the journey Lamont became ever more anxious about the meeting as he dwelled upon what this 'surprise' might be.
5. So then he decided to proceed directly to the cinema, without waiting for anyone, and thus avoid this surprise.

A precise meeting point (should) allow easy meeting.
I was there. Nobody getting off the rest of the train went to the end. They all went to the middlee to leave. I continued to wait until after it left. There was nobody on the platform to come to the end. If I wasn't there how would I know what sort of train it was.

Tigger_'s picture

Addendum.

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If I had adopted that philosophy then I would have continued to wait at Lilydale for b1rd who slept in (and in doing so I would have been presuming to abandon END at Ringwood)

Then if nothing else, does this not prove that the railway system is a poor instrument to facilitate social gatherings?

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A precise meeting point (should) allow easy meeting.

It seems odd to me that you should make absolutely no allowance for error, while this may be your way of doing things, I am not so confident that the myriad factors that will come into play, in even the most humble of man's designs, will always come together as he plans.

Ethanol's picture

Children

This is truly pathetic. Why not simply reschedule your little channel meet? Man up for goodness sake!

LamontCranston's picture

It seems odd to me that you

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It seems odd to me that you should make absolutely no allowance for error, while this may be your way of doing things, I am not so confident that the myriad factors that will come into play, in even the most humble of man's designs, will always come together as he plans.

The allowance for error is END either making his way to the 6th carriage once he is on the train, or more importantly making his way to the end of the platform.
He didn't go to the end of the platform, nobody getting off went anywhere else except to the exit.
This is fucking ridiculous. He can get the wrong train or get there late or go not to the end of the platform but instead somewhere else when he got to Ringwood or whatever the hell it is he did - and he has no responsibility. Its my fault.