Star Trek: Set Phasers to Incoherence

So the new Star Trek film is out, and has been well received both commercially and critically, as Wikipedia reports: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_(film)

Star Trek has received nearly universal acclaim from film critics. As of May 12, 2009, the film holds a 95% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes with 225 out of 236 critics giving it a positive review with an average rating of 8.1/10

Including the May 7 figures, the film made $76.5 million domestically its first weekend. The film also opened in 54 other countries, topping the box office in 23 of them, and adding $35.5 million to its opening weekend. In a worldwide Total, the movie so far made $112,000,000.

David and Margaret also had much good to say about the film, giving it four stars each.

In my spoiler filled review, I shall reveal for the first time, the truth of the matter.

First a bit of background, as all but the die-hard fanboys probably know by now, Star Trek is a dated, pop-cultural relic of the 1960's that probably seemed daring and innovative when it first appeared, but then increasingly quaint through its several revival series, until finally a total embarrassment in its final Voyager and Enterprise series. The reasons for this are not just the premise of a galactic empire going about forcing its utopian ideology on other civilisations in hypocritical contravention of its own "Prime Directive" was too thin to sustain the franchise any longer, but that its development painted it into a corner of the nerd's side of the room. Each series seemed to have yet more bumpy-headed aliens sermonising on cringe-inducing sophomoric philosophical topics. Political-correctness run amok; with not only black captains and female captains, but stories where the cast would stand around prattling about the issue of the episode, when the issue could be quite sensibly resolved if they just hit something (At least Kirk could do this much). Then of course there was the pusillanimous approach to narrative demanded by network-TV where almost every episode had to be self-contained, the universe resetting at the end of every episode, and little in the way of a sustained story-arc (except for some of DS9, so I am told), hence one could watch Star Trek episodes in almost any order and it wouldn't matter very much. This timidity would also extend to the characters and their hardware, so that in Voyager they seemed to have a limitless number of shuttle-craft, and by the final episode the ship was just as shiny as the first episode. Lastly there was also the habit of writers falling back on treknobabble to resolve stories, probably the shoddiest thing of all.

So when Battlestar Galactica came along, with no utopianism, no bumpy-headed aliens, no prattling exploration of cultural differences, no political-correctness, a continuous narrative, an awareness of the scarcity of resources and hardware, a preference for religion over philosophy, and no holodeck to have contrived episodes set on 20th century Earth, the effect was like the final nail in the coffin for Star Trek. Hence it was no accident that when BSG got underway that Enterprise was axed, with most of the commentary at the time making this comparison.

So the Star Trek franchise has since spent several years in hiatus as Paramount considered what to do, before finally handing it over to J.J. Abrams, and in an apparent indication that Star Trek would be returned to its roots, it was announced that it would be a prequel starring the young Kirk and Spock, who are still the most recognisable characters as far as the general public are concerned. At first I assumed this would be a conventional prequel that would ret-con into the existing canon, so was surprised to learn via way of fanboy-howling that it junks the existing canon by way of establishing an alternate time-line, effectively rebooting the franchise. Ironically this means that the prequel series, Enterprise, considered to be worst of the lot, remains canonical while TOS, TNG, and DS9 now no longer exist.

But I am personally not too bothered by a reboot, since what is lost could be a fair exchange for clearing out the aforementioned dross in the Star Trek universe and bringing a new sensibility that would otherwise not be acceptable to the existing fanbase. However what we get isn't brutal, cynical, realism but just action, and very little else. The story, such as it is, is very slight, and would not by itself even fill a TV episode, except that it is heavily padded with action scenes shoveled in at every possible (or impossible) opportunity.

The story is thus: A supernova threatens the planet Romulus, Spock attempts to contain the supernova with a black hole (yeah, yeah, I know, it's actually supernovas that create black holes, but let's ignore that), but arrives too late and Romulus and the Romulan empire are destroyed, a surviving Romulan ship and its captain, Nero, are sucked into the black hole, along with Spock's ship, and taken 120 years or so into the past (yeah, yeah, I know, this isn't what really happens when you get sucked into a black hole). Nero is furious and wants to avenge himself on Spock and the entire Vulcan race by destroying the planet Vulcan, then Earth for some reason. He does this by drilling a hole into the core of each planet, and then dropping a black hole into the centre of them so they vanish. Meanwhile Kirk works his way up from recruit to captain in record time, and saves the day and Earth survives.

In no particular order, here are my observations:

- The Romulan, Nero, is played by Eric Bana, who makes no attempt to disguise his ocker Australian accent. It is a shame the script didn't oblige him with lines like "Yah gallah Spock, Vulcan won't be worth sheepdip when I finish with it."

- Why is Nero determined to exact revenge from Spock and Vulcan? Now that he has gone back in time, why doesn't he just fly to Romulus and warn them that they have 120 years to evacuate the planet before the supernova? So averting the catastrophe to begin with. In the minds of J.J. Abrams and his writers, evil characters simply do evil things, even if they are totally counterproductive to their own desires.

- When Spock is a young lad, his Vulcan mates make fun of him for being a half-breed, this essentially consists of telling him "yo momma" jokes, until he flies into a rage.

- The very first sequence, when Kirk Snr's ship is attacked by Nero, the action was so action-packed, pacing so abrupt, and editing so nervous, that I wasn't sure that this was actually the film yet, and perhaps this was an ad, and very soon a voice over would say "Star Trek - The Game. Out now on Xbox 360, PS3, and PC."

- Not being done with action, we jump forwards a few years to the young Jim Kirk in Iowa, driving a stolen car off a high cliff. That someone bothered to create a road that runs directly off a cliff tells us that all those Road Runner cartoons were probably set in Iowa too.

- Kirk is determined to seduce Uhura, who does act like a bit of a slut, giving Kirk the idea that she's at least available. There wasn't much I recall in TOS that suggested this side of her character, but I suppose it does explain why she so readily does that (very unwelcome) striptease in Star Trek V: The Final Frontier.

- It turns out that Uhura had her eye on Spock, and throws herself at him a few times, and they share an icky interracial kiss. Spock, if you think you're confused now , think about how confused any potential offspring of this pairing will be. I don't seem to recall any such emotional bond between Spock and Uhura in TOS, so how did they terminate their passions so completely? The idea is so stupid that I doubt if even fan-fiction was idiotic enough to come up with this.

- Aside from this, the cast do a pretty reasonable job in creating a plausible resemblance to the TOS characters which they play, with the dynamics between the actors also more than echoing TOS. This is the most successful aspect of the film, and for this the actors deserve more credit than the writers or director.

- Anyway, when they get into space more action follows, there is so much action that whenever it subsides even slightly, I'm expecting the pace to quicken again with someone announcing "Captain, the ship's crocodile enclosure has been breached! Decks 4, 6, and 7 are now infested by crocodiles!" And then Kirk will go and wrestle crocodiles.

- This almost does happen, Spock maroons Kirk on an ice-moon of Vulcan, and he is then chased by some snow creature, who is then eaten by a giant dinosaur-sized reptile, and then Kirk is running for his life from the giant reptile. Fortunately elderly Spock (who just happens to be there) saves him by scaring it off with a small fire.

- There seems to be a new trend in cinema these days (The Brave One is full of this), twirling a camera around on a dolly so the camera is simultaneously moving on three axises. This is just annoying. It's like a baton-wielding marching band leader is the camera-operator.

- While the ten preceding Star Trek films will never be regarded as high watermarks of cinema, at least in their pedestrian fashion they allowed you time to look at anything interesting and pretty. Here the editing is so frantic that if there ever was a good shot, you'd easily miss it by blinking at the wrong time.

- Nero's plan is to drill a hole into the centre of a planet and drop a black hole into the middle of it. But you know, drilling a hole isn't really necessary, all you have to do is throw the black hole in the general vicinity of the planet, and that will do the job.

- Things I've learned: Black holes destroy planets, but cause spaceships to travel back in time.

- Gratuitous Action Scene #45. Kirk and Scotty beam back aboard the Enterprise. Kirk beams back fine, but Scotty happens to beam into a giant waterpipe, which is carrying him swiftly towards some SPINNING BLADES!!! Before Kirk can save the universe, he must first save his new friend from the SPINNING BLADES!!!

- A reboot doesn't mean we're going to be spared bumpy-headed aliens. Not at all. More of them than were ever in TOS.

- As many have remarked, the flight deck of the Enterprise looks like an Apple store showroom. Personally I thought it looked more like an 80s nightclub, but this is all a matter of opinion.

- A bunch of other stuff happened too, but I forget it all now.

In conclusion, William Shatner no longer suffers the shame of directing the worst Star Trek film.

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LamontCranston's picture

ho hum

I wont respond to your PC baiting.

Then of course there was the pusillanimous approach to narrative demanded by network-TV where almost every episode had to be self-contained, the universe resetting at the end of every episode, and little in the way of a sustained story-arc (except for some of DS9, so I am told),
Well yeah they have an entire war in that series, with some pretty dark decisions being made by the so-called good guys, but of course they had to rip off Babylon 5 to do this.
At first I assumed this would be a conventional prequel that would ret-con into the existing canon, so was surprised to learn via way of fanboy-howling that it junks the existing canon by way of establishing an alternate time-line, effectively rebooting the franchise. Ironically this means that the prequel series, Enterprise, considered to be worst of the lot, remains canonical while TOS, TNG, and DS9 now no longer exist.
Sports Almanac, Alternate-1985.
It turns out that Uhura had her eye on Spock, and throws herself at him a few times, and they share an icky interracial kiss. Spock, if you think you're confused now , think about how confused any potential offspring of this pairing will be. I don't seem to recall any such emotional bond between Spock and Uhura in TOS, so how did they terminate their passions so completely? The idea is so stupid that I doubt if even fan-fiction was idiotic enough to come up with this.
These sorts of films require a romance, no matter how contrived and halfarsed, and they probably figured Kirk with anyone would be stale.
They also require weird father-complexes (Abrams apparently on the phone to Spielberg daily taking advice probably didn't help that), hence the thing with the USS Kelvin and Kirks father (I dont think it was ever established what either of his parents did), and how exactly did Nero know who was and wasn't on that ship in order to taunt Kirk?
While the ten preceding Star Trek films will never be regarded as high watermarks of cinema
Wrath of Khan?
In conclusion, William Shatner no longer suffers the shame of directing the worst Star Trek film.
No, whoever directed Nemesis no longer suffers the shame.

LamontCranston's picture

my IMDB review

Its not as good as Tiggers, for one thing I spend half of it qualifying that I'm not some nerdraging Trekkie. And so far 7 out of 10 people have found it useful.

I'm not an obsessive fan - I've never dressed up, never gone to a convention, never been part of a fanclub, never learnt Hamlet in the original Klingon, never written a fanfic, read a couple paperbacks when I was a kid (dreck), etc.

An ordinary viewer.

I'm realistic enough to agree with people like Philip K. Dick that it by and large was old scifi pulp militarism reheated and Nicholas Meyers that whatever pretensions it claimed to aspire to it was often just gunboat diplomacy in space.

The whole thing about being about something bigger was Roddenberrys vague flailing around at an idea without any actual work being put into it.

But on occasions in the original series and Next Generation and in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th and 8th film they actually managed to get near or reach these high ideals of being about something more. Or if not that then at least tell some good stories with interesting characterisation. And of course there was Deep Space 9 (back to realistic: lets not beat around the bush, someone at Paramount ripped off Babylon 5 big time).

What is this new film? A dumbfounding 'reboot' (lol guis I accidentally continuity-wat nao /b/?)*, a few minutes for some juvenile emotions, the rest hot air couched in enough screwing around with the sound design and frenetic editing and busy directing - shakeycam close-ups, dutch angles, whip pans, sweeping dollys, lense flare etc. - to make Michael Bay blush, and action action action.

*Starting over from scratch is one thing, J. Michael Straczynski counter-proposed that very idea when he turned down joining the writing staff on Enterprise, Battlestar Galactica would be another example. But that's not what this does. It actually has to go and destroy its (future) history before it can exist. Wipe it out of existence. You can decide for yourself what exactly that means or if it has deeper Freudian or Jungian or Campbellian implications for the creators of this film. Its like Old Man Biff stealing the DeLorean and going back to 1955 with the Sports Almanac.

Well there you have it. And again touching upon one point raised in it - why oh why oh why this bizarre contrived unwarrented egotistical time traveling elimination of history?

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Roddenberry's legacy

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The whole thing about being about something bigger was Roddenberrys vague flailing around at an idea without any actual work being put into it.

I once looked up Gene Roddenberry's bio just to see if he was a Jew or Freemason (he was neither as far as I can tell). But today I thought I might try to get a more complete picture of the man, and came across some curious episodes.

On rebooting TOS as a film series; Star Trek: The Motionless Picture fluked its way into profitability and was greenlighted for a sequel. Roddenberry was determined to write the script himself and produced a 60 page outline, summarised here: http://startrekdom.blogspot.com/2007/06/captain-kirk-mr-spock-and-jfk-rejected.html

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It involved time-travel, Klingons, and a beloved American president: JFK. After losing ships to V'GR, Klingons locate the "Guardian of Forever" (seen in "The City on the Edge of Forever"), and they diabolically use the time portal to travel back to 1963. These rogue Klingons succeed in stopping the assassination of JFK. Perhaps they kidnap Lee Harvey Oswald, or maybe they abduct the president and feed him Gagh! Somehow... they keep JFK alive. Only the insiders who've read the unpublished script know the full details. But, apparently, this change in the timeline is extremely detrimental for the future of humanity, and by the 23rd century, the Klingons reign supreme as an unstoppable intergalactic imperial force.
Fortunately, Captain Kirk once again saves the universe... by letting someone die. Travelling back in time, the noble captain ensures that JFK gets his head blown off in Dealey Plaza. "The climactic moments of the film," according to William Shatner, "would find Spock standing on a grassy knoll in Dallas, firing that infamous `phantom shot'... thereby guaranteeing a brighter future for all of mankind."
Prior to this cinematic climax, viewers are treated to Captain Kirk and JFK fighting, arguing, and then becoming close friends as the handsome and young commander-in-chief tours the spaceship Enterprise.

Needless to say, Roddenberry didn't seem to understand this sort of idea might sustain a TV episode, to do it as a feature film it was doomed to come across as a trite gimmick, and a fairly tasteless one in this case. Quite sensibly the Paramount heads rejected it, so hired Harve Bennett to produce, who then recruited Nicholas Meyer to direct, and they did the fan-favourite, Wrath of Khan, which lead into a well sustained sequence of films that made Star Trek a viable franchise again. Roddenberry didn't see it that way though, and continued to resubmit his stupid script idea again and again when not nursing his alcoholism and cocaine addiction.

From the wiki entry on the much-beloved TOS swansong Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country:

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Star Trek's creator, Gene Roddenberry, who wielded significant influence despite his ill health, hated the script.] Meyer's first meeting with Roddenberry resulted in Meyer storming out of the room within five minutes. As with Meyer's previous Star Trek film (The Wrath of Khan), the script had strong military overtones, with a naval theme present throughout. Far from being idealized, the characters were shown as bigoted and flawed. In contrast to Roddenberry's vision of the future, Meyer thought there was no evidence that bigotry would disappear by the 23rd century. When Roddenberry protested about the villainization of Saavik, Meyer replied that "I created [Saavik]. She was not Gene's. If he doesn't like what I plan on doing with her, maybe he should give back the money he's made off my films. Maybe then I'll care what he has to say." After the stormy first meeting, a group including Meyer, Roddenberry, and producer Ralph Winter discussed the revised draft. Roddenberry would voice his disapproval with elements of the script line by line, and he and Meyer would square off about them while Winter took notes. Overall, the tone of the meeting was conciliatory, but the producers ultimately ignored many of Roddenberry's concerns. By February 13, 1991, the film was officially put into production with the agreement it would be in theaters by the end of the year.

And upon completion of the film:

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Roddenberry did not live to see the film's release, dying of heart failure on October 24, 1991. Two weeks before the film's release he viewed a near-final version of The Undiscovered Country, and according to the film's producer and Kelley's biographer, approved a final version of the film. In contrast, Nimoy and Shatner's memoirs report that after the screening he called his lawyer and demanded a quarter of the scenes be cut; the producers refused, and within 48 hours he was dead.

So though Roddenberry was the creator of Star Trek, little that is good about it is his doing. Especially when you consider that The Next Generation which started out as his work, included elements such as his Mary-Sue, Wesley Crusher. Also it was TNG that began the trend of giving bumpy-headed aliens increasingly greater screen time, treknobabble, that the Federation became explicitly socialist, and rather than money, everyone seemed to be motivated by getting A's in their Starfleet exams. I'm guessing that until TNG, Star Trek was considered to be one of the cooler sides of pop-culture, particularly with that 60's camp factor thrown in, but after that became the sole domain of uber-nerds.

LamontCranston's picture

some more

Well first of all Roddenberrys script rips off Harlen Ellisons far superior The City on the Edge of Forever. (Since he sold it to Trek I guess they own it and he couldn't sue like he did with The Terminator, but could he have at least got the Writers Guild to demand some sort of story credit?)
the script had strong military overtones, with a naval theme present throughout.
Even if a navy consisted entirely of a coast guard and search & rescue aircraft and ice breakers and research ships theres going to be order and structure, especially if that coast guard has to deal with Klingons and Romulans and Breen and who knows what else. Life on the International Space Station is highly regimental.
Although they would probably be more air force than navy, but theres no fun in that.
And how can Roddenberry even argue this when the original series had a military structure and titles and they were fighting something near every episode?
Meyer thought there was no evidence that bigotry would disappear by the 23rd century.
Exactly right, they're just good and pure and noble because we say so. You don't show it, you say it. Very lazy. Thats the difference between The Seven Samurai where we are shown the core character traits of the lead peasants and the Samurai, and your average action flick where we're just told they are X. Also a frequent cheap dodge used in TNG too - Troi would say "I sense..." about a character and that'd be it.
And of course lets not forget every time they squared off against the Klingons for control of a planets resources - and put pressure on the locals to see their point of view.

Finally both the good and the bad - Wesley, families on board, a counsellor, settlement with Klingons, a clear delination between the role of the Captain and Executive Officer, etc - of TNG was actually largely the work of David Gerrold, he left after the first season after a dispute before the Writers' Guild in which the Guild required that Gerrold be paid additional wages for the work he did helping to create the series and parties unknown rejecting his AIDS parabol script.

Ethanol's picture

My review

Having endured two very long hours of the new Star Trek movie, I thought I would share my observations. I’ m not much of a movie critic, nor am I particularly good at interpreting underlying themes by using big words and whatever else movie critics do to justify their mere existence. Like most average pop-corn munching, suburbanite slobs with day jobs, I watch movies to be entertained...not to be intellectually challenged. So I’ll just cut to chase by sharing my observations in an unabridged Warren1984 archive format:

Did you notice that Nokia(TM) is a leading mobile phone producer in the 23rd century? They even “modernised” the (in)famous Nokia ring tone. Furthermore, Humans drink Budweiser (TM) instead of Aldebaran Whiskey and Maraltian Seev-ale. So it appears that the Star Trek universe, once held in high esteem by socialist geeks around the world as the ultimate alternative to capitalism, is no longer immune from sneaky product placement.

A car chase scene in Star Trek??? Of all the overused Hollywood clichés, was this really necessary? It added very little to the story line (or what somewhat resembled a story line). The fight in the bar (another boring cliche) was all we needed to recognise that Kirk was a under-achieving bum living on Star Trek DSP.

Whilst no mention of money was made in this movie, Kirk’s offer to buy Uhura’s drinks implies that a currency based economy still exists in the 23rd century. This contradicts the (formerly) official Star Trek canon which claims that money was abolished in the 22nd century. (See http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Money)

The Erhuh (Chinese violin) features prominently in Vulcan instrumental music. Give credit to the audience please Mr Composer. Even the most dim-witted idiot will associate the Chinese violin with...well, China! Are you trying to imply a link between Chinese and Vulcan culture?

The Vulcan school system is very bizarre. Not because students train in an oversized honeycombs (albeit rounded in shape), but because the subject matter is taken directly from 20th century American text books. For example:
• The Vulcan alphabet uses Latin characters.
• Vulcan calculus uses Leibniz notation.
• Molecular structures in Vulcan chemistry resemble the skeletal structures used by chemists on Earth.

Now I’m not saying that the laws of science (and mathematics) are not universal. The language and symbolism used to represent scientific and mathematical principles on the other hand would have evolved independently to that of Earth. Am I’m being overly picky? Yes. But is it too much to ask for some “realism” (for want of a better word) in a futuristic science fiction movie? Hollywood says yes to this too.

Spock has a very big nose, but it is nowhere as big as Uhura’s big fat snoz. Speaking of blacks, did you notice the black romulan? I guess every race must have a token.

Although Scotty’s scientific achievements were well noted by the Spock of the alternative universe (played by no other but Leonard Nimoy), the younger Scotty of this movie was portrayed as bumbling idiot. It is very clear that American script writers have their stereotypes mixed up. Poor Scotty appears to be an Irish man with a Scottish accent. James Doohan will be rolling in his grave.

Karl Urban (who played Leonard McCoy) was in my opinion the stand-out actor of the film. Although he fell short of emulating DeForest Kelley’s neuroticism and sarcastic wit, his mere appearance reminded us that (at least some) Star Fleet officers do indeed have souls, even after 4 years of intense socialist brain washing at Star Fleet academy.

It is no surprise to learn that the fate of the known universal comes down to a secret gentleman’s agreement between the two opposing races. The agreement can be summarised by the following:

• The best ship of the Federation faces the best ship of the enemy. No other ship may intervene. The winner takes all. The losing side unconditionally surrenders.
• The loser allows for his emotions override his better judgement as he conveniently forgets that his enemy is outgunned, outmatched and technological inferior.

The soundtrack was quite simply put, annoying. It left little to the imagination, and seemed better suited to a 1980s cop action flick. Perhaps they simply tacked on the soundtrack of Die Hard? The only highlight to the soundtrack was at the very end of the movie when the composer paid homage to the original series.

LamontCranston's picture

o rly?

I had hoped with my review to set a standard of criticism for this film that rose about fanboy nitpicking, it appears some didn't get it.
A number of observations:
Whilst no mention of money was made in this movie, Kirk’s offer to buy Uhura’s drinks implies that a currency based economy still exists in the 23rd century. This contradicts the (formerly) official Star Trek canon which claims that money was abolished in the 22nd century.
Very true, the most equivocal is from Picard in First Contact who paints a (human at least) society clearly organised along the principles of anarcho-syndicalism & libertarian socialism-
"The economics of the future is somewhat different. You see, money doesn't exist in the 24th century... The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives. We work to better ourselves and the rest of Humanity."
And the Ferengi are used to ridicule the Randian Amoralism of the more extreme proponents of capitalism.
Although Scotty’s scientific achievements were well noted by the Spock of the alternative universe
No, he is from the universe we all know and love (and mock) from Star Trek - a good way to tell if Spock is from an alternate universe is if he is sporting a 'van dyke' beard - a universe this film destroys with its lamebrain story. You know when Old Biff goes back to 1955 with the Sports Almanac and then when Marty and the Doc go to 1985 and find a nightmare alternate reality? Thats what this film has done.
James Doohan will be rolling in his grave.
Actually Doohan was Canadian and had no accent, eh. But was good with voices, he did most of the guest stars on the animated series and devised the Vulcan & Klingon languages seen in the Motion Picture.
I didn't like Urbans role, they didn't know what to do with him and so just made him the clown for the first half the film (Scotty was for the second half). This happened because the writers either intentionally went for the weird bromance/vaguely homoerotic Kirk-Spock duo (they NEED each other?!) or just couldn't grasp the id-ego-superego triptych Spock-Kirk-McCoy operate in.

Tigger_'s picture

The underbelly of the Federation.

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Very true, the most equivocal is from Picard in First Contact who paints a (human at least) society clearly organised along the principles of anarcho-syndicalism & libertarian socialism-
"The economics of the future is somewhat different. You see, money doesn't exist in the 24th century... The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives. We work to better ourselves and the rest of Humanity."

While this sounds like a lovely idea if you are the sort of person likely to qualify as a starship captain so you can go around bettering humanity in style. The vast majority of people will never have the talent or opportunity to get to shine, in this strictly committee approved way, so they will have to better humanity by guarding a door or replacing broken lightbulbs along the Enterprise corridors.

Of course few people will want to do this, so it's far more likely that they'll stay at home and eat chocolates all day from their matter replicators. I have always had a sense that if money and the profit motive really don't exist in the Federation, yet all material wants are satisfied, then the average citizen is essentially rich, but idle and voluntarily unemployed. Hence those who sign up to Star Fleet are more likely the minority eccentrics of this society, and are not representative all.

LamontCranston's picture

I dont think so Tim

Reading to Proudhon, Bakunin, et al what you describe is very unlikely to occur

Tigger_'s picture

Worker's phone, worker's beer.

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Did you notice that Nokia(TM) is a leading mobile phone producer in the 23rd century? They even “modernised” the (in)famous Nokia ring tone. Furthermore, Humans drink Budweiser (TM) instead of Aldebaran Whiskey and Maraltian Seev-ale. So it appears that the Star Trek universe, once held in high esteem by socialist geeks around the world as the ultimate alternative to capitalism, is no longer immune from sneaky product placement.

No no! The Federation hasn't sold out, instead in the 23rd Century the state has nationalised these companies so that Nokia is the 'worker's phone', just like the old Soviet brands.

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The Erhuh (Chinese violin) features prominently in Vulcan instrumental music. Give credit to the audience please Mr Composer. Even the most dim-witted idiot will associate the Chinese violin with...well, China! Are you trying to imply a link between Chinese and Vulcan culture?

I must confess I didn't notice the music at all when it wasn't the Beastie Boys.

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Now I’m not saying that the laws of science (and mathematics) are not universal. The language and symbolism used to represent scientific and mathematical principles on the other hand would have evolved independently to that of Earth. Am I’m being overly picky? Yes. But is it too much to ask for some “realism” (for want of a better word) in a futuristic science fiction movie? Hollywood says yes to this too.

I've always rather liked the intergalactic cultural imperialism implied by touches like these in SF films, that the civilisations of the universe will almost completely junk their independently developed standards and conform to the ways of the Earthling.

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Spock has a very big nose, but it is nowhere as big as Uhura’s big fat snoz. Speaking of blacks, did you notice the black romulan? I guess every race must have a token.

Now if only they would take it to its logical conclusion so that the tokens of every race within the Federation stridently demand affirmative action promotion within the otherwise proudly meritocratic Star Fleet. This should have been the first episode of DS9.

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haha

Tigger_ triumphs once again, Lame-ont-Cranston left speechless.